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A lot of scriptwriters should follow this ♥

In my translation:

Seven deadly sins of writers of musicals:

1. The story is predictable
2. The audience feels no empathy with the protagonist
3. The protagonist learns nothing from the story and remains unchanged
4. The theme isn't explored/analysed
5. Songs tell the audience what they already know
6. All characters act and sing in the same way
7. Ten minutes in, you still don't know what's going on

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Date: 2009-09-17 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enisy.livejournal.com
I love Michael Kunze so much, I can't even express ♥ Man knows his stuff.

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Date: 2009-09-17 09:24 am (UTC)
winter: (emote - creativity)
From: [personal profile] winter
*nodnodnod* His pace can be a tiny bit off sometimes, but man, can he write good :D

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Date: 2009-09-17 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com
I'm going to copy this down now, because frankly this stuff is true for all storywriting everywhere.

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Date: 2009-09-17 09:46 am (UTC)
winter: (herbert - friendly)
From: [personal profile] winter
I think it's particularly important with musicals because they connect directly to emotions, and because too many writers think a tune you can whistle is enough ~_~

Kunze's emploi is taking outside source material (du Maurier's Rebecca, for example, or the lives of various historical figures) and making it into a musical you can't forget, finding themes in it that you'd never suspect.

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Date: 2009-09-17 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Ah ha ha. (I like dark musicals. My tongue-in-cheek rule is that there have to be at least two deaths and one onstage rape. Man of La Mancha, Sweeney Todd, and West Side Story all make the cut.)

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Date: 2009-09-17 10:01 am (UTC)
winter: (emote - rar)
From: [personal profile] winter
*snickers* Out of what I've seen this year, only two don't qualify (and one of those is Me and My Girl...)

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Date: 2009-09-17 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Really! List me some more that fit, please!

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Date: 2009-09-17 10:09 am (UTC)
winter: (neil gaiman)
From: [personal profile] winter
Tanz der Vampire, obviously. Elisabeth depends on the feistiness of Letzte Tanz, but the one I saw was pretty feisty :) Legend had a magical/metaphorical rape, but made up for it, I think, with onscreen birth that culminated with the new mother exploding in flames over her Issues. And the kabuki play I saw had a double whammy of a girl first drowning, then falling prey to the sea lord's desires...

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Date: 2009-09-17 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancystar.livejournal.com
Hum. I can hardly find a musical I like where at least someone doesn't die (preferably a bunch of someones, and if possible through their own hand / the hand of their shadow self represented by a mute porcelain child / vampires), but I can think of scarcely anything where people get raped. Which is good, because that's one of the things I can't put up with.

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Date: 2009-09-17 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancystar.livejournal.com
Thanks for the link! I follow him semi-regularly, but it's good to be reminded to take a look, because he's got awesome stuff. *worships him*

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Date: 2009-09-18 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Is there actual rape in TdV? Seduction I thought I saw, but rape? I'm SO PICKY. ;D

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Date: 2009-09-18 04:49 am (UTC)
winter: (androgyne - prettyboy)
From: [personal profile] winter
Okay, unconsummated rape of Alfred by Herbert. Picky, picky ;)

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Date: 2009-09-18 04:49 am (UTC)
winter: (objects - tea ceremony)
From: [personal profile] winter
He's got an RSS feed ;) They're useful things.

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Date: 2009-09-18 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
(And technically WSS is unconsummated. Explains why it doesn't quite make my list of favorites. :D )

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Date: 2009-09-18 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganphntmgrl.livejournal.com
There's the two dancerapes in Carpe Noctem, which fit even more.

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Date: 2009-09-18 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganphntmgrl.livejournal.com
The one I'm writing involves a bunch of deaths, incestuous overtones, threesomes in dance format, the ends justifying the means, none of the principals having had good childhoods, closeted homosexuality, psychosis in one of the principals, and nobody coming out of the ending morally clean, so you can imagine what I like to listen to.

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Date: 2009-09-19 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancystar.livejournal.com
I wouldn't count any of the TdV stuff, because vampire biting does not equal sex. Yes, it's sexual and definitely a metaphor for sex, but it's not sex as such. Especially since actual sex also exists in the world of TdV. I doubt Alfred thought Sarah was inviting him for some biting in Du bist wirklich sehr nett. So uninvited vampire biting does not constitute rape in my view of the show.

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